Allosaurus 'Prey' base.

[artdecovampire]

Here is my latest project. Hopefully soon available from Prehistorix as a multi-part kit. Just to wet your appetite I thought I'd post a few pics. It can be used in conjunction with the Allosaurus base if you have it. If you haven't, turn this kit around and it fits against the Ankylosaurus base as well so your Allosaurus can stand over its dinner. It also explains why hes drooling. Its an and/or kit! The prey is a gallimimius.

[artdecovampire]

And these two as well!

[artdecovampire]

It still needs its arms and legs and a few finishing touches, but its nearly ready to cross the pond to PSgreat, AKA Mark Kreiss, the hardest working man in recent P/S history. It'll have a full colour cover on the box, proper instruction sheet etc.

[psgreat]

( Thank you Sir... not true though, you take those honors ) Those are REEEEEEEEEALLY COOL!!!! :}

[artdecovampire]

Hey Mark,
Just e mailed you the same pics! Gotta go to bed its 11.30pm here! try and getthe limbs done by the weekend and post more focused pocs.

[prescenes2]

Okay, what you guys got cooking up now?

Pics are small for these guy's eyes but it looks pretty cool!

Nice job, Art!

[artdecovampire]

Slightly better picture. My cameras being fixed so I have to use my daughters!

[fud]

That's fantastic mate.Looks like it will be alot of fun to paint with all that detail.

[scooke123]

I like that base a lot - hopefully you will make it available soon!!
Steve

[prescenes2]

Ahhh, that's much better. Yah, I like it too.
@ Steve, apparently it will be available soon.

[psgreat]

Whoa!!! Nicey nice.... Ahhhhh.... flickering vents.... Looks like we'll have a "Deluxe" version of that one too! :}

[andymoscarts]

Blimey,That's a bit excellent! Nice one Art

[artdecovampire]

I am working on the two visible legs this weekend. Sculpy cocktail sticks foil etc. These are proving quite easy. What is not easy is the legs beneath the body. The ones you can only see part of. A real pain as I have left no room on the base for them. I might have to chip off one of my ferns! I took ages making one then painstakingly copied my original using silligum as a press mould to repeat it, now I'll have to get rid of one. Too many ideas. I need to keep it simple.

[jeffbrown]

looking this over I don't see why you can't just sculpt the leg right on the base and right over the ferns, then you would not have to take a chance on breaking anything except maybe having issues rebaking the SSculpy. looking at it the entire thing can be molded as a one piece base, dino and all (except maybe the head). Maybe have just the top leg separate so modelers can hang it out of the Allos mouth. This would cut down on molding costs and the final price too unless you wanted the base with or without the dino as an option. the dino does look like four separate pieces unless I'm mistaken.

[glen]

What a cool piece. That does explain the drool. It is also very interesting to read the conversation about next steps, how to add legs, options for ways to build...  Thank you for posting it here so that others of us can listen in and learn.  It is great to see work in progress. 

[artdecovampire]

Dec 5, 2014 17:26:45 GMT -5 jeffbrown said:

looking this over I don't see why you can't just sculpt the leg right on the base and right over the ferns, then you would not have to take a chance on breaking anything except maybe having issues rebaking the SSculpy. looking at it the entire thing can be molded as a one piece base, dino and all (except maybe the head). Maybe have just the top leg separate so modelers can hang it out of the Allos mouth. This would cut down on molding costs and the final price too unless you wanted the base with or without the dino as an option. the dino does look like four separate pieces unless I'm mistaken.

Thanks Jeff. Some good advice and food for thought. The reason its in pieces is two fold. It means I can work on small pieces separately, but I suppose I could mould them in to the base with epoxy putty and needn't re-bake. The second reason is pure indulgence. I've done a lot of one piece relief style moulds over the years for various things. I just fancied coming up with amulti-part kit. I used to sculpt figurines for the pottery industry and once the originals were finished they were cut up, and small plaster slip moulds made, cast and put back together with more slip. I suppose in my head I was thinking about kit pieces when I planned it in teh same way. Trouble is I forgot two of the pieces! LOL! Onward and upward!

[artdecovampire]

Dec 5, 2014 21:49:26 GMT -5 glen said:

What a cool piece. That does explain the drool. It is also very interesting to read the conversation about next steps, how to add legs, options for ways to build...  Thank you for posting it here so that others of us can listen in and learn.  It is great to see work in progress. 

Thanks Glen. I've learned more about modelling and casting off people on the pro boards than I ever did at Art School. I'll tell you this, large lost wax bronze castings are simple compared with rubber moulds and dino sculpts! Its a learning curve. Some people have the 'knack' as we say in the UK. Some people don't. Check out PSgreat. He does. Hes a natural caster. I'm a natural modeller, but I tend to have too many ideas at once and try to shovel all of them in. This one for instance was going to be a one piece sculpt of a little Camptosuarus huddled up and it turned in to a monster, no pun intended. I like Jeffs idea of having the top limbs loose so you can piut one in the allosaurus mouth. Thats in the PS spirit, a proper model, but one you can play with It will also make my job a lot easier.

[glen]

I really enjoy the thought proses expressed here and the open willingness to listen to the ideas and suggestions of others.  It seems like there is a pretty high level of trust, respect, and friendship on these boards.  Don't find that in a lot of places.  I really like the idea of a detachable leg, too.  The whole piece looks like a Great add-on. 

[artdecovampire]

Hi Glen,its great to hear your positive thoughts I think the trust comes from the fact there is very little money to be made from the work we do. Its a labour of love for the most part and even if it makes its way to being a kit it still works out at just enough to finance the next sculpt. With a lot of add-ons being discontinued I thought I might as well have a go, as have a few others. Jeff Brown is one of the best so I am going to take his advice and make the Allosaurus prey in to a four piece by moulding the body, neck and tail to the base and have the head, arm and back leg separate. When its done its going over the ocean to PsGreat/mark kreiss and if there's enough interest to make a mould and cover the resim costs hell release it under the Prehistorix lable. Once the mould is done then he can shelve it until he gets another order. Check out the stuff Mark does on the main site where it says add-ons.

[TAY666]

Actually, this hobby in general (model kits) is pretty open and sharing when it comes to creative ideas, and how to do things.
At least from my experience. I've never actually sculpted a piece, molded or poured a kit, but I can tell others the mechanics of it due to all the times I have read others explain things.

Prime example. Just go over to youtube and check out the videos from Mike Evans or John Diaz. These are guys who produce their own kits, and get paid to mold and cast for others. Yet, they freely share their tips and advice for any that want to learn.
And I have found that to be true pretty much across the board. Molders, casters, sculptors, builder, painters. They just want to share their passion with anyone who can appreciate it.