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Post by pbbass3313 on Aug 10, 2011 11:06:49 GMT -5
Anyone seen anything new on this?
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Post by TAY666 on Aug 10, 2011 20:14:57 GMT -5
Haven't heard a peep.
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Post by pbbass3313 on Oct 24, 2011 9:44:47 GMT -5
Ok we're almost into the "Christmas" season...., seen any updates on this line?
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Post by prescenes2 on Oct 24, 2011 23:08:11 GMT -5
Again the crickets chirp......
Been wondering that me-self?!
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Post by pbbass3313 on Oct 28, 2011 12:02:10 GMT -5
I e-mailed an inquiry to 'em Monday....the crickets continue playing...........
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Post by eradicator178 on Oct 30, 2011 23:58:39 GMT -5
Well not hearing anything is not good news in this case.  I have seen where new monster scenes kits are being done but no other news on the PS. Does anyone know if there is even a web site for the new PS?  |
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Post by prescenes2 on Oct 31, 2011 20:03:37 GMT -5
Dennis has implied he's doing a PS website but none to my knowledge right now. He's mostly focussing on the MS stuff with the PS in the background. Other than that, all I know is he's working with Andy Yanchus.
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Post by prescenes2 on Oct 31, 2011 20:08:59 GMT -5
Can you tell me more about Dennis of Dencomm, since everyone seems to know him? Is he associated with one of the large remaining hobby/modelling stores? About all I can say is: He's his own entity trying to resurrect the PS and MS line any way he can. |
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Post by TAY666 on Nov 1, 2011 19:17:24 GMT -5
While I am not the most enthusiastic supporter of this announced new line of kits.
I will say that I have no doubt that Dennis will get something out there eventually.
He isn't going to give us status updates.
He is going to tease us.
Not until he has something really close to release
He keeps things close to the vest, and doesn't show his hand until he is ready to show it.
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see or hear anything until nest WF.
Doing styrene kits is not quick or easy.
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Post by desslock on Nov 1, 2011 21:56:30 GMT -5
Why isn't it quicker or easier? Have to get the molds done in China for expense? Primarily just managing expenses given the market can probably only support a few hundred units or so?
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Post by TAY666 on Nov 2, 2011 18:57:33 GMT -5
Why does it take so long?
Well, first you have to decide what you want.
Then you have to get a master sculpted.
Then you have to approve that sculpt, or have it tweaked and adjusted until it is exactly the way you want it.
Then you have to have the engineering done, to determine the best way to break down the parts so they fit well, and can actually be produced from a steel mold.
Then that master has to be sent to a tool shop.
Which then has to cut steel molds cavities to make the parts.
Then they have to build the rest of the mold complete with ejection system, hot runner (if needed), core pulls (if needed)
After all that, then you have some test shots run.
That will tell you if the mold will actually make the parts, and if the parts are up to snuff.
Usually at this stage you have to make adjustments to the mold. Probably for both part quality, and production efficiency.
Repeat, as many times as needed to get things just right.
Then you can have the mold cavities textured if required. (always best to leave that step for last in case you have to make any significant changes to the part)
While all this is going on, you also have to do instructions and packaging.
Artwork, layout, printing, etc.
And remember, each step of this process requires money to pay people to do it.
When I worked in injection molding, it could be 6 months from first test shot, to actual production of parts. Tool shops are usually pretty well booked up. So when you need changes made, you have to wait your turn (kind of like making an appointment to have car repair work done)
Then once the changes are done, and the mold is shipped back, you have to schedule press time to put the mold in, and run some more test shots.
Add to that, the fact that the smaller you are, the longer you wait.
Tool shops, and injection molding companies are going to make sure to take care of their biggest customers first. So, their jobs take a higher priority.
As opposed to someone who is just going to have a few thousand pieces run off.
That won't even keep the press running for a full week.
Nothing easy or quick about it.
Just ask Scott at Monarch.
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Post by desslock on Nov 4, 2011 11:47:35 GMT -5
Heh, that's a great post -thanks for the context.
Speaking of Monarch, weren't they going to try to rerelease the Dracula and Hyde Monster Scenes kits that only had limited release in Canada? That seemed problematic given Revell's rights to the Monsters of the Movies kits that are almost identical.
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Post by TAY666 on Nov 4, 2011 18:31:02 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what that whole situation entails.
And the MOTM and MS kits aren't just almost identical, they are the same kits.
Just with slight differences.
But they were made from the same molds.
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Post by prescenes2 on Nov 4, 2011 23:28:38 GMT -5
I never thought that any of the MS or MOTM kits would ever be reproduced in styrene but looks like it's happening...slowly, but happening none the less. I'll wait a bit longer. Never know what might pop up in the near future?! BTW, even though the Animal Pit and Dungeon really isn't that interesting, it's just the thought that it was an original Aurora kit that never made it! Waiting on pins and needles for them both. Also I heard that the return of Molemento's Invisible Man and Bride of Drac is coming soon!!! YAY  |
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Post by prescenes2 on Nov 4, 2011 23:32:08 GMT -5
Ammendment to the previous post...
Who ever thought that the T-Rex would've been rereleased in similar color and box. Knowing perfectly well that it is not the same as the 70's version, it still brings back a nostalgic feeling!
Keep 'em coming guys!!! ;D
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Post by desslock on Nov 5, 2011 14:08:14 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what that whole situation entails. And the MOTM and MS kits aren't just almost identical, they are the same kits. Just with slight differences. But they were made from the same molds. Question for you on that-- what exactly are the differences? i.e. - Are they the same scale, or is one 1:12 and the other 1:13? - Obviously Jekyll/Hyde was split into two kits for the MOTM series, while it was one for MS - what parts are new/different? Which background/base is from MS? - Is the Dracula identical? I think I read somewhere that the MS kit came with some extras - other set of legs? |
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Post by TAY666 on Nov 5, 2011 18:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by desslock on Nov 5, 2011 23:28:17 GMT -5
Interesting. It seems like the bases/backgrounds for Hyde/Jekyll in MOM were entirely new, based upon those pictures. Definitely MS didn't have as interesting bases as PS.
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Post by prescenes2 on May 20, 2013 12:36:53 GMT -5
I don't suppose that Denncom was at WF 2013 to announce the release of the new PS kits?  |
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Post by artdecovampire on May 20, 2013 14:29:46 GMT -5
There is a quick injection moulding process. John Adams of Aeroclub models used it. It involved spraying a low temperature melt metal (A type of lead free pewter) over a wooden pattern with a heated spray gun whilst inside a bolster and backing it up with resin. Then it was flipped and waxed, then another bolster, low temp metal and resin. This gave an injection mould for a relatively short run, a couple of hundred. I had several 1.72 aircraft models made in this way. Foland Gnat, Gloster gladiator etc. Engineered parts like aircraft worked well. I suppose organic shapes like figures are much more difficult to cut up for moulds as they have too many undercuts . The metal wore well but eventually the resin backing cracked with the pressure. I suppose an enterprising company might take it back up again,
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I have seen where new monster scenes kits are being done but no other news on the PS. Does anyone know if there is even a web site for the new PS? 
