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Post by TAY666 on Jul 31, 2012 20:50:20 GMT -5
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Post by RetroArt on Aug 2, 2012 13:38:07 GMT -5
Is it an actual Atlantis release or someone selling a custom resin head with an Atlantis Bison kit? And if it is an Atlantis release, would there be an official Dencomm-Sanctioned "PREHISTORIC SCENEStm DENCOMM" packaging?
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Post by prescenes2 on Aug 2, 2012 23:34:41 GMT -5
I like the new addition for the bison better than the original sculpt. Who sculpted it?
I highly doubt that Dencomm has an input on this one.
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Post by TAY666 on Aug 3, 2012 18:18:51 GMT -5
So do I. This was just the Atlantis guys coming up with a way to move more kits with minimal investment. They said they are going to do similar things with other kits. With either, resin, white metal, or vacuformed parts for certain kits. All that they do will be limited editions, and mostly for the hard-core guys.
I think it is a great idea. A way to broaden their market appeal. Test the waters for some subjects before tossing a lot of money into steel molds. And to keep some of their products in the spotlight for more time.
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Post by pbbass3313 on Aug 12, 2012 16:37:03 GMT -5
I'm really going to take a look at this. It's 1/16 scale, which I think is close enough. I would like to see if I can get a little tilted neck action out of it to make it look less "stale". And the sculpt looks close enough to be a PS (well the new head does...). Anyways, as I ask Steve (under a different posted topic), do you think there might be enough overall interst from all of us to get a run on a new "P/S" style name plate and a base adder to fit into an area or two on th P/S landscape?
And speaking of Steve, please see his topic on "Add-ons" and sign up for the Ichthyosaurus SOON!
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Post by TAY666 on Aug 13, 2012 19:37:38 GMT -5
I'm not really sure about the actual scale of the bison. The bison kit itself is supposed to be 1/16, but I believe that the prehistoric bison was of a different size than what we currently have. So that would change the scale of the kit.
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Post by pbbass3313 on Aug 14, 2012 9:56:36 GMT -5
Well I got one coming to mess with....see what I can do with it and how close in size it compares to ...say mike's Woolly Rhino and or Glyptodont.
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Post by TAY666 on Aug 14, 2012 16:33:04 GMT -5
Well, I found this on Wikipedia.
had larger bones and horns and was 15-25% larger overall than modern bison: It reached up to 7.5 ft tall, 15 ft long. From tip to tip, the horns measured approximately 3 feet.
So, if we can get the measurements of the kit, then we can see what scale it actually is.
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Post by scottbanks on Sept 13, 2012 18:06:50 GMT -5
I got one. It's pretty cool, but I plan to mod it a bit. The neck is a bit long, but only needs about 1/16-1/8 of grinding to make it a better fit. Maybe there is a way to make the head on an angle or slightly turned. I agree with pbbass, it is a bit "stale".
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Post by scooke123 on Sept 14, 2012 9:44:45 GMT -5
Post some WIP pics when you start Scottbanks. I've been on the fence on getting this one. Steve
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Post by pbbass3313 on Sept 19, 2012 12:10:30 GMT -5
Got mine too, last week. Doesn't seem a lot out of scale or out of sync with the PS collection. Going to try to pull out the Saber and Mike's Woolly Rhino for a comparison shot, but be patient. I'm in the process of remodelling my shop to have a permanent area to set up and work, and currently have everything packed away. Dang kids are taking over the house.......so I've got to move out!. Heating economics and pack rats are the main problem I need to fix.........
Got some lettering coming - hope to develope a PS-style nameplate. Was also going to make a base adapter to fit in, but maybe I should let Scott handle that since he has the kit and experience! Will work on ways to get a good looking "turn" in the neck and beef up the hump a little. Also want to ensure I can get the tail in a more "aggitated" position (see Wiki for reference). I'll keep ya posted, but it's looking like a 2013 project...........
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Post by prescenes2 on Sept 19, 2012 15:23:02 GMT -5
If the measurements are as Trevor stated then that means the Bison should be around 6" high and 12" long minimum to be somewhat in scale. I own the original Aurora Bison and as far as I'm concerned, HE's too small for the 1/13 requirement. Could be a Pygmy Bison? Now the White Tailed Deer is in scale if he is converted to a Megalocerous. Anyone done that yet?
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Post by pbbass3313 on Sept 20, 2012 10:15:17 GMT -5
At first glance, I wouldn't write it off as a "pygmy", but a juvenile might be more like it. I put it next to Mike's glyptodon, and it's still slightly larger.....I'm going still try to go with it. Now the Megalocerous idea, that sounds cool.....are you going to play with that?
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Post by prescenes2 on Sept 20, 2012 18:14:58 GMT -5
I just might! ;D
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Post by scottbanks on Jan 2, 2013 10:31:22 GMT -5
I finally got around to creating a PS style base that adds to the Tar Pit and still integrates Saber-Tooth Tiger and Neanderthal Man. Also made some mods to the kit to have the head turned a bit. Attached is a WIP photo. I will post more when it's complete. Attachments:
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Post by TAY666 on Jan 2, 2013 17:12:47 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, how much bigger is the new head, compared to the original head.
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Post by scottbanks on Jan 3, 2013 16:33:06 GMT -5
The face & nose are about the same size. Maybe a bit wider than the original. But its pose, tilted up with mouth open, makes it longer and a little taller. Attachments:
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Post by scottbanks on Jan 3, 2013 16:38:34 GMT -5
Because of a fit issue, I had to update the mold for the bison base. Attachments:
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Post by scottbanks on Jan 3, 2013 16:41:31 GMT -5
This is the recast base for Paleo-Bison. Also a bit of an add-on for the TAW Glyptodon base to help it fit with my add-ons. Attachments:
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Post by lowelker on Jan 6, 2013 17:20:24 GMT -5
At first I was not on board with the the Bison idea. I assumed it was just going to be huge horns put on the old kit. The resculpt on the head makes all the difference. I'm most definately in on this add-on.
Awesome work on this one. The base is great too.
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