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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 19, 2014 15:41:21 GMT -5
Here's the next personal project I'm gonna start doing......
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Post by jeffbrown on Jan 19, 2014 16:18:41 GMT -5
That is awsome, I thought about doing the cat to match the one in the Aurora drawing but didnt think about cutting and repositioning the body. if this turns out looking really good you should think about making copies. are you thinking about repositioning the Cromagnon man or using him as is? you'll need something stronger then the plastic spear to hold this up though.
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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 19, 2014 22:29:57 GMT -5
Actually haven't got that far yet. The Cro Mag man I have started on years ago but never finished. He's actually nearly complete but with a few minor tweaks. here's the pic I was going after on Trevor's site.... www.tylisaari.com/prehistoricscenes/sket-tig3.JPG I thought about adding a rearing Mammoth (again, courtesy of Trevor: www.tylisaari.com/prehistoricscenes/proto2.html )in the scene either behind the man or behind the saber. Don't quite know yet. Kinda "making up as I go" type of thing. Anyway, fighting the flu symptoms right now so hopefully better in a few days.
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Post by lowelker on Jan 21, 2014 14:59:44 GMT -5
Please cast it. Please oh please.
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Post by jeffbrown on Jan 21, 2014 20:38:57 GMT -5
molding and casting a few single pieces is not that big of a deal, its doing a kit with 1/2 dozen molds over and over trying to get a large percentage of usable castings in the end without having to throw too much out and have the molds last long enough to at least make your money back if not make some profit. but you can mold and cast the cat body without too much expence and probilbly get enough castings to pay for itself in the end and here's how: Hobby Lobby has 40% off cupons about every week for 1 item. they sell Alumilite rubber and resin for 30 bucks a kit. the resin is about the size of two 20oz soda bottles or a bit bigger. the mold rubber is a 1 Lb kit which may be enough to that one cat body. get the 'Hight Strength' rubber. not the quick setting rubber; thats crap. I mean none of the alumilite stuff they sell there is really very good at all its just convenient. now if you want to do a whole kit don't use that stuff but for a single piece you want to do quickly its OK. the resin is brittle and it has an oder that gives me a headache if I pour too long and I'm in a 10ft by 11ft workroom with no ventalation so that doesn't help any. get a couple Lbs of modeling clay; make sure its sulpher free. you can use it over and over again. get a sheet of paper backed foam board. HL sells the 1/4 in and 1/2 thickness; 1/4 in is fine; 1/2 in is too thick to work with. all together thats another 10 bucks or less if you get the cupons and the foam board is 3ft by 4ft which gives you alot of mold wall material. so for about 50 to 70 bucks you can get maybe 6 to 8 cats but I'm just guessing/estimating. send them out for maybe 25 bucks each and you've paid for the material; depending on how many turned out OK and how many want them. you'll need a few more things like disposble cups, sturs, rubber bands, a good electronic scale, 'Harbor Freight' for about 15 to 25 bucks (Harbor Feight has cupons too, 20% off I think). So 25 bucks might not let you break even, not sure. but its not a 100 or 150 dollar kit and most people have the extra set of legs from their original kit. all-in-all I think that would be a good deal
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Post by TAY666 on Jan 21, 2014 20:54:04 GMT -5
Or, he could see if Rob would be willing to cast them for him He does already produce his own kits.
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Post by artdecovampire on Jan 22, 2014 1:34:44 GMT -5
Its dream of mine to produce a large kit for sale. A daft one probably. Just a labour of love rather than a profit. I produced a base for the Pyro/Lindberg protoceratops/triceratops. I only got two copies before it came apart. Too many traps and undercuts ripped off bits of the rubber. If you were casting from an injection moulded part all that would be worked out for you. Its an exciting thought. In the UK all these materials are really expensive so here I reckon you can easily double the cost. I scoured the internet for supplies and in the end it ended up costing me £80 for two smallish resin parts. Its was a great experience and we all make great scratch built or kit bashed stuff that others would find interesting.
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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 22, 2014 11:11:48 GMT -5
Please cast it. Please oh please. Before I even think about doing that, let's see how it turns out first. Thanks for the vote of confidence!
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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 22, 2014 11:24:30 GMT -5
Or, he could see if Rob would be willing to cast them for him He does already produce his own kits. Jeff Brown does too! Let's see how this kitbash goes before I consider casting it. If I did, question is; how many would be interested? For now this project stopped for the moment 'cuz I have some other pressing matters to focus on first.
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Post by TAY666 on Jan 22, 2014 19:48:52 GMT -5
I know I would be in for one for sure. And depending on price, possibly 2. That way I can build one, and keep one.
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Post by artdecovampire on Jan 23, 2014 1:11:15 GMT -5
Tay, that should be the kit builder's motto on their family crest. One to build, one to keep. I think that in Latin that would be
'Aedificabis, custodire.'
Sounds a bit Harry Potter but its so true. Or
'Semper buy duo'
which is always buy two!
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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 23, 2014 1:48:54 GMT -5
Thought I'd start a different thread for this one. I have other focuses to work on for awhile before I can get back to this but here's where it sits as of now.....
A extra pipe inside the chest for the metal spear to be added later! Added some styrene strips for support of the putty.A roof top!Need to cover the old "tail" hole!!!
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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 23, 2014 1:58:48 GMT -5
I noticed after gluing the two halves that there is a significant "hump" that'll need to be filed down. Probably will do that after the first coat putty is applied.The old "tail" hole might just be a perfect solution for the propping up! This way the cat can balance the weight on the Cave "rock" and Cro-Mags spear.
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Post by simonwilliams on Jan 23, 2014 8:03:27 GMT -5
Wow. That is looking great so far. Cannot wait to see how this turns out. You're giving me so many ideas!
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Post by andymoscarts on Jan 23, 2014 15:57:11 GMT -5
Great job on this,anatomically correct monsters cant be far off now!
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Post by artdecovampire on Jan 23, 2014 17:34:34 GMT -5
It just looks right doesn't it. Just great, the stance, the spear everything.
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Post by TAY666 on Jan 23, 2014 18:03:42 GMT -5
Thought I'd start a different thread for this one.
Moved the posts from the other thread into this one for ya.
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Post by lowelker on Jan 24, 2014 11:49:25 GMT -5
That is Awesome work. I printed the pics so maybe if I go slow I can make my own, if you decide not to cast it.
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Post by prescenes2 on Jan 24, 2014 18:59:45 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I'm glad everyone likes it so far. If it turns out, I'll consider casting it. Like Alchemy Works, I'll need so many committed to buy. But for now, let's see how it goes! Thanks Trevor for moving that over. John I'm glad this gives you ideas because you started it with your sabers!!!
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Post by prescenes2 on Feb 6, 2014 11:31:58 GMT -5
Okay, slow going on the saber right now. I buggared up the back of the cat. I sculpted some shoulder blades "humps" too far down his back. Had to grind it off and redo. Just finished resculpting it last night. Will take a pic later if all looks right with it. Did a little seam work on his body and legs in the mean time.
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